Olive Branch Optimism
what a wonderful world...
Saturday, October 01, 2005
In reply to Craig-
OK craig.

So the main stream media says between 100,000 and 300,000,
so when I say 200,000- thats just a logical guess.

Now, I have photos, that show atleast tens of thousands in one photo, carrying the white ribbon of dead-soldiers-photos.

the rally that had only hundreds of supporters present was a counter-rally organised by Pro-Bush activists.

See, I had known about both of them for some time now. (6 months for the anti-war, 3 months for the counter rally)


Want more sources? Want more proof from others?

OK.

HERE


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/sep2005/war-s28.shtml

http://www.imagesofresistance.org/images39/images39.html (5 pages of high-quality photography)

http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2005/09/rally.html (more photos)

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Also, CINDY SHEEHAN WAS ARRESTED ALONG WITH ANOTHER 370 PEOPLE!!!!

REPEAT

CINDY SHEEHAN WAS ARRESTED ALONG WITH ANOTHER 370 PEOPLE!!!!


CINDY SHEEHAN WAS ARRESTED ALONG WITH ANOTHER 370 PEOPLE!!!!


and where is the media?

This happened outside the White House on monday!!!

just look in google.

"CINDY SHEEHAN ARRESTED"

should do the trick.


and for more sources on the more than 100,000 comment- here are some (including one estimate of more than 300,000!)

http://www.newsinsider.org/date/2005/09/

E-mail from troops out now coalition --

On September 24, Washington, DC saw the largest antiwar demonstration since the war beginning of the war against the people of Iraq, with more than 300,000 people flooding the streets of the capital demanding "Troops Out Now!" The massive march on Saturday was followed by civil disobedience in front of the White House on Monday in which 370 people, including Cindy Sheehan, were arrested.

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And this on the LOS ANGELES TIMES

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092405protest_lat,0,7194433.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Spirited Anti-War Rally One of Largest of Iraq Conflict
By the Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- Crowds opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House today, shouting "Peace now" in the largest anti-war protest in the nation's capital since the U.S. invasion.

The rally stretched through the day and into the night, a marathon of music, speechmaking and dissent on the National Mall. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, noting that organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people, said, "I think they probably hit that."






The Washington Post said Washington police estimated 150,000.

Some organizers say 200,000- some say more than 300,000 (but that is for the whole weekends events).

Organizers may have been so pleased as to count in a few extras, and the police probably know what they are talking about- but also probably want to down-play it so as not to provoke further civil disobedience....

So I would say about 150-160,000 is probably somewhere around the right number.

That is still huge.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/24/AR2005092400852.html


Even the HEAD-COUNT OF ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION AT ONE PARTICULAR TIME (In a series of detailed, high-resolution photographs, the aerial survey shows that around 65,000 people were in the area of Market Street and Civic Center Plaza at 1:45 p.m. Sunday http://www.amadorpeace.org/chron03.htm [the Chronicle and SFGate.com])

Now, if I know anything about protests, its that most people who go to them are there either late or early- since lefties are not particularly good @ doing things on time.

So by my estimates, there must have been atleast double what was in the photographs taken from air - at 1:45pm - come and go throughout the day.

So that bring the estimate down to 130,000- DEAD MINIMUM.

I would like to think- being an optimist, that there were another 30,000 people there- and another 300,000,000 people there in spirit like I was.

Either way- a out-of-the-blue rally like this represents the future of the anti-war movement. We are never giving up

- So craig if you are going to pass criticism make it worth while.

Other wise, quite simply- f*ck off.

P.S - if you STILL WANT MORE SOURCES, send me an e-mail - I would be happy to find some for you.

[olivebranch out]
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